Okay, enough is a-freakin' 'nough already.
Tippy Toes, Jeannie Baitinger, Pochahontas, WHAT do you know?
Yes, I know you're all involved now with your Camp Carbaway, but as a former admin of Kimkins and someone who went on national television to defend Heidi Diaz, you must know some things that could be helpful.
Here are some questions I would LOVE to see you answer:
1. Do you have knowledge of Kimmer's use of fake members? Proof?
2. What is the connection between Heidi and Bonnie Luper? Was Bonnie a member of Kimkins? Is she related to Kimmer in any way? Is "the magic chicken" website Heidi's backup plan for when Kimkins goes dark? There IS some connection. There HAS to be.
3. Is Heidi involved in deviant sexual practices or are those dominant/subservant sites just where she trolls for Kimkins members? Is Heidi the ultimate Dom?
4. How can you live with yourself? You have a chance to repair a lot of damage you've helped do by setting things right.
Listen, we're not friends so you may think you don't owe me any answers. Yes you do. You owe anyone who was a member at Kimkins some answers about all this. Maybe you have joined the lawsuit as a principle, maybe you have turned over evidence in the suit to John Tiedt. But, I don't know. You are silent in all this. Why?!
Come forward Jeannie. Make no mistake about it. We will bring down Heidi and Kimkins with or without your help. But, you should help. You should be willing to make things right. This won't just go away if you ignore it long enough.
The ball is in your court.
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Mayberry are you aware TT cooperated with John and turned over emails and everything else he wanted and she had?
No, I wasn't sure about that. Maybe she HAS to be silent. I don't know. But, other principles have been able to reveal some things. I want answers. Mainly this rant has to do with the Magic Chicken Folks. Does Jeannie know something?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Thanks 2Big for the update!
Cooperating with Tiedt doesn't necessarily mean that she has to be silent. At least that wasn't the case for Christin and Deni. I think that Tripsy doesn't have much to say that shows her in favorable light, so she chooses to not say anything. Remember the pitiful attempt at a blog called Tippy Toes - The Story that ended up being a rant at people at LCF? Remember her justifications for working for and supporting Heidi when she tried to enter Amy Eating Low under another name?
I don't think you will see any answers or comments from Tippy.
I did try to respond but I guess I wasn't logged in? Let me know if you didn't get it and if not I will post it again. It's really late here and I am beat. I took a long time answering so hopefully it did go to you for moderation? I'll check back. lol, don't know why I am listed as the blog but yes, it is me. And yes I will help.
Okay, Tippy. I see your comment. You can email me directly or just answer the questions I've asked. I said on LCF tonight that I didn't expect to hear from you, but that I would publicly acknowledge your help if I was proven wrong.
What have you got to tell us?
1. Do you have knowledge of Kimmer's use of fake members? Proof?
Kimmer has lied to me about using sock puppets. She asked me to take over for "Danielle" in the Bootcamp forum as "Danielle" was away. She later causually mentioned she was Danielle, as if I had know it all along. Clearly she forgets what lie she told who and cannot keep up. Some think Gary may be a sock puppet as well but I have no proof of such. In fact, Gary seems to do more on the boards than Kimmer or "Danielle" or for that matter anyone. This makes me believe Gary is a real person as Danielle wasn't very active. Now I could be wrong and without doubt I have been wrong many times concerning Kimmer. But now looking back it seems clear Kimmer gets bored easily with her own sock puppets and quits posting. For sure "Brad" is not real either.
2. What is the connection between Heidi and Bonnie Luper? Was Bonnie a member of Kimkins? Is she related to Kimmer in any way? Is "the magic chicken" website Heidi's backup plan for when Kimkins goes dark? There IS some connection. There HAS to be.
I agree there is a connection between Bonnie and Heidi. Recently AmyB provided me with the same info she has given you in her blog. I asked for her user and pass to take a look which she did give me. It was so weird in there. Just as Amy says, it is a ghost town. But I did note the suggestions of Crystal Lite and Wishbone Spritzers for salads and I KNEW it had Kimmer written all over it. And given that with the 800 calorie minimum which is the magic number above starvation, I knew. I have provided one of your Ducks and Teidt with the info when Amy told me of this MCD and granted me access. Still, Kimmer has never told me any info and I have no clue if Bonnie was ever a Kimkins member. But some things worth noting are, how could Bonnie know what the Kimkins site looked like to clone if she hadn't been there? Further, believing this is Kimmer's site and doings would conclued me to believe Bonnie never lost weight on a MCD, of course. Maybe WLS? Not chicken. I have called Bonnie myself out of curiosity and she is not Heidi but I do believe she is paid by Heidi as a cover. She was nice enough on the phone. I told her we had formed Campcarbaway and invited her over but she did not extend an invite back to me. And I never heard from her again. This may or may not have a connection, but I have posted a soup recipe at Kimkins I called magic chicken soup. I believe Heidi may have copied the "magic" idea--perhaps as catchy and perhaps to catch me in it. She is clever that way. But I assure you I have no further info. And I do hope you Ducks can figure it out although it seems clear to me it was meant as a fall out for Kimkins. The good news is, it went bust, belly up. Empty, dead. Good!
3. Is Heidi involved in deviant sexual practices or are those dominant/subservant sites just where she trolls for Kimkins members? Is Heidi the ultimate Dom?
Oh now you just can't ask me that. I have no idea about Heidi's sex life and ewww, I don't want to know. But someone did link porn tags attached to my screen name TT and my real name. For a long time I thought it was you Ducks. Now I think maybe it was her. Becky once said she had access to Kimmer's gmail account and looked in a folder full of porn sites. So I do think she has some links there but really, I have no idea why or what she does. Yuck. Gag.
4. How can you live with yourself? You have a chance to repair a lot of damage you've helped do by setting things right.
I feel extremely guilty for what I said to Christin and Deni on TV. Not that it makes it right but I was scripted by Heidi as to what to say to them. I do think back about Kimkins members complaining of being so cold all the time and I wonder now if their thyroids were screaming out to stop. But at the time I was cold losing weight too and thought it was just the way it was. I didn't believe what was being said about hair loss as I have mine BUT when AmyB started complaining I began to question her privatly. It was Amy who made me see the truth. And the truth is there are some serious side effects to Kimkins. I thought it was from doing the plan behind the plan, and that may well be but upon further digging I now see the plan behind the plan was THE plan for a long time as preached by "Kimmer". I apologize to those whom I didn't believe. Kimmer assured me it wasn't true, the Ducks were making these things up, and well, since I didn't suffer hair loss, I believed her--until I heard it from AmyB. I am trying my best to right the wrongs I have done by opening up Campcarbaway free of charge to Kimkins members. We are researching other diet options and posting alternatives in hopes people will use them instead of Kimkins. I have a couple doing EFGT with good results and some choose Stillmans Quick Weight Loss. One tried Atkins and was so amazed that it could possibly work. Of course we will not harrass anyone coming in who still wants to do Kimkins, of course. But we do try to throw out alternatives, supplements suggestions (flax from vitaminshopp.com has all 3 Omegas) and some other educational/nutritional info. Further, I have contacted your very own Controlled Carb and asked her to come to Camp to help. She has agreed to help us soon. We look forward to her advice and imput. So yes, I am trying to help others who have been harmed and I am trying to get Kimkins members away from Heidi.
Listen, we're not friends so you may think you don't owe me any answers. Yes you do. You owe anyone who was a member at Kimkins some answers about all this. Maybe you have joined the lawsuit as a principle, maybe you have turned over evidence in the suit to John Tiedt. But, I don't know. You are silent in all this. Why?!
I have been silenced due to a bann from LCF. And I got banned from Eating Low too, as you may recall. I tried the blog but I was bombed with so much meanness and I found myself reacting very unkindly as a result. I can't allow myself to become that so I pulled the blog down and decided to just stay within Camp.
Come forward Jeannie. Make no mistake about it. We will bring down Heidi and Kimkins with or without your help. But, you should help. You should be willing to make things right. This won't just go away if you ignore it long enough.
I have not been silent with Teidt and have provided him with all email exchanges. I have also signed an agreement stating Teidt may examine my computer upon demand. I have nothing to hide and want nothing more than to see Heidi get what she deserves. Keep in mind I was only PR there for a little less than 3 months. Heidi has had people there way longer than me and she never spilled the beans to them either. She isn't dumb but she does get sloppy.
Mayberry, I know we are not friends. I barely remember you from there. You left in a whirlwind before you and I had a chance to get to know each other. But I would like to think if you had the chance to know me you would change your opinions. Perhaps answering these questions for you is a start.
Thank you Jeannie
Tippy,
My hat is off to you! You just moved up the humanity scale by leaps and bounds as far as I am concerned. I appreciate your answers, I believe you are being as upfront as you possibly can be, and true to my word, I will publicly thank you here as well as on LCF. I wish you the best of luck with Camp Carbaway. It sounds like you are trying your best to do the right thing. You deserve commendation for that!
Mayberry, it is not neccesary to say anything in my defense but I thank you just the same. And if I may comment without over stepping my boundries, I hope this will help others at Camp understand why it is so important not to copy and exploit posts of struggling ex Kkers. None of us mind any Ducks being there at all. I am starting to understand Ducks are bad people. But please, please keep in mind these people at Camp coming out of Kimkins are so very fragile. I hope AmyB's blog about wanting to go back helps to explain the kind of hold this woman really has on others. Making fun of, bashing and exploiting posts of Campers just makes folks want to run back to her, as weird as it may sound. I myself actually found a lot of peace at Kimkins during the worst of the worst. It was easy--sort of like a turtle going into its own shell and not looking out. Kimkins has a hold on people like that. So please, I beg your fellow posters and bloggers to stop. Camp needs to feel safe for them. I ask this not for myself but for them.
And Mayberry, it would be an honor if you ever wanted a free Camp membership yourself. I am sure you have some friends there from KK too who would be delighted to see you there.
Edited to say I meant I am seeing Ducks are NOT bad people. Sorry for the mistake.
I hear what you're saying. Not everyone can laugh about what happened at KK's. As for myself, I can. When I stopped to think about it, there is NO shame in being conned by Heidi. She's very good at conning people. The shame is in staying silent about it. But, not everyone can look at it like that. FWIW, I don't recall anyone taking posts from the Camp and making fun of them. Even posts taken from KK's are not made "fun of" but used as an example to try and help others SEE what's really going on.
Thanks for the invite to Camp. I'll give it some thought.
TT, I really appreciate you comments here. Good luck with the Camp and I hope you are successful at rescuing other from KK. You stepped up when needed and the Ducks are greatful for that.
My gosh, if that's what I could look forward to eating every day, I would be SNATT too! At least have fresh chicken! One thing I have been wanting to say for a long time regarding the MCD. This woman thinks she's got something to offer FOR A FEE because she kept it off for MONTHS???
Tippy, I can not believe you are acting like you were in the dark when you took the job at the Kimkins site. Did you not say to people you knew that Heidi's pictures were fake before you took the admin job? And did you say to people the money was too good to not take the position no matter if Heidi did what people accused her of? Be careful, I know the truth. Tippy, why are you now charging people money to join your site? Is it still all about the money? I would think someone with an ounce of integrity would not charge people after they were screwed over by Heidi. Sounds like you are screwing them a second time to me. You would make your site free if you really want to help people. Tippy you are just like Heidi and it appears you learned from Heidi on how to make a buck off of people. I hope people will end up seeing that and take you to court next. People, there are plenty of free sites with people that have lost a lot of weight. Join them. Do not pay money to people that are seeing dollar signs.
Thanks...
Canan Eoy
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